This is certainly a first. Disfellowshipped for delivering new light!
I wonder what scriptures were used to justify this one?
Incredible.
Thank you for your efforts Atlantis. Much appreciated.
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The Last BOE!
by Atlantis inthis is the last boe we will be able to provide.
our informant or source, was caught, disfellowshipped, and thrown out of bethel.
we knew that sooner or later the watchtower would find him out.
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Clinging to the Congregation means life or death! Animal Kingdom Video!
by AuntConnie ini found this video online that demonstrates just how dangerous it is to drift away from the organization and stay away from the weekly kingdom hall gatherings.. .
a mother gray whale and her calf get separated from the pod (jehovahs organization and weekly meetings) and this makes them vulnerable to attack because they dont have loving companions for protection.. .
the mother whale took her baby on a long journey, only to see it die.
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Are foreign-language groups at a disadvantage when learning TTATT?
by ILoveTTATT inthe watchtower library cd in spanish only goes back to watchtowers of 1970. this means that, for example, www.ajwrb.org 's info regarding blood can only be confirmed in articles from then onward.
english-speaking jw's can access information on watchtowers going back to 1950. this means that the "worship jesus" article (1954) is not available, the "we officially ban organ transplants" (1967) is not available, etc.. congregations in the u.s. and canada have had witnesses since... well... the beginning.
most kh libraries have very old books; it is relatively easy to find books going back to the very first watchtower!!
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No problem. I won't reveal what I was a part of here. But all I will say is that I have experienced it firsthand and my eyes are open.
I am currently in fader status I guess. But definitely inactive on all counts.
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Are foreign-language groups at a disadvantage when learning TTATT?
by ILoveTTATT inthe watchtower library cd in spanish only goes back to watchtowers of 1970. this means that, for example, www.ajwrb.org 's info regarding blood can only be confirmed in articles from then onward.
english-speaking jw's can access information on watchtowers going back to 1950. this means that the "worship jesus" article (1954) is not available, the "we officially ban organ transplants" (1967) is not available, etc.. congregations in the u.s. and canada have had witnesses since... well... the beginning.
most kh libraries have very old books; it is relatively easy to find books going back to the very first watchtower!!
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As in my case, if you served in an "appointed position", learning the TTATT is not hard. The politics is the same no matter what language you are a part of.
Too many years of that and my eyes were opened and I was moved to question. The outcome? The JW's DO NOT have the truth, nor does any particular religion.
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Forum cleanup and archive
by Simon ini mentioned i was cleaning the forum archive when i bumped this thread by oompa:.
damm i miss jwd...this place will always be jwd to me.... rather than turn that into a discussion of the archive, i'll answer slimboyfat's concern here.. the things i'm clearing up are either:.
time specific and non jw related (e.g.
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What??!! The 'Armageddon hasn't arrived' thread seems to have been deleted in this cleanup.
How will we ever keep track or know if it came??!!
Oh well. Life goes on. At least I already know what the WTS predicted was/is horse $h*t.
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My Study: "Did a 'Governing Body' govern Paul?"
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Bookmarked
I look forward to seeing this topic develop more. Thanks Doug Mason.
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Hi, I can't find the 4 Scriptures a JWN Friend Posted about "examining the scriptures" and JWs Don't Need To Study Scholarly Works because the GB does that for you.
by ÁrbolesdeArabia inhi, i caught the scripture in acts 17:10-12 on the jews who checked the holy scriptures to make sure paul and silas were not lying.
my new medication is making my head a bit fuzzy and i can't find the link you provided.
sleep alludes me often at night so i am taking ambien and valium to sleep or get to be before 2:30 am before i wake up back at 5am for work.. .
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Not sure if this will help Arboles, but below are some links.
Follow link to Examining the truth
Follow link to FDS says
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Powerfully heart-wrenching experience by FORMER BETHLITE
by Black Man injust wanting to post an experience by a former bethelite.
the first part was just published with the other two coming overt the next couple of weeks.
click the link.
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Looking forward to reading more. Thanks for the thread Black Man.
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FDS says - "No need to check our work. Besides, it will only make God angry."
by Crisis of Conscience inthough i no longer believe the fds is indeed appointed by god, i guess because of what has been taught to me all these years through the wtbts, i still make an effort to try and look at both sides.
and then i come across this number below, which is how i arrived at my title for this thread.
***w81 2/15 p.19 do we need help to understand the bible?***.
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BU2B, scriptures do not mean what they say or apply in a logical way, as evidenced by the article in the opening post.
The WTBTS interprets as they see fit and/or convenient.
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What do you mean?! I ALWAYS go to the beach after service and wear long pants and button up shirts while I play a game in the sand with my family! Sometimes I wear button up long sleeve shirts too!
by Crisis of Conscience inthe wts likes to imply how jws should dress in and outside of the hall.
you always want to set an example.. so i couldn't help but share this beauty in the january 15th, 2013, study edition of the watchtower.
i always go to the beach like this!
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Ah damn! The last 2 posts with pictures no longer show the pictures. BOO!
I'm sure they were good though. Thanks!